Saturday, October 1, 2011

落实“回教国”的三大条件


朝野政党最近再度因为“回教国/回教刑事法”的推行与否而掀起口水战。

民联三党在针对此课题而召开的领袖会议后,由安华代表在联合记者会上澄清了民联不准备推行《回教刑事法》。安华指出,要落实回教国/回教刑事法,必须符合三大条件:三党一致统一纳入民联政纲修改联邦宪法。至于民联将来的执政路线,将以联邦宪法民联橙皮书共同纲领为依归。

上述言论至少证明了一点:只要三党中有任何一党不同意,或无法取得共识,“回教国”知易行难。况且,有哪一个政党可以拿下国会32多数议席修改联邦宪法?除非国阵成员党对巫统的立场也没有信心。

至于马华坚持只把焦点放在“无法达到共识”,这的确是事实,可是这却只是事实的一半。事实的后半段是,正因为行动党的反对,导致三党“无法达到共识”,所以“回教国”无法成立。

马华领袖们坚持以选择性的角度来诠释事实,这一点可以叫人理解,因为“回教国”几乎已是该党仅剩可以炒作的课题。

然而,马青总团长魏家详认为民联“一切以联邦宪法和橙皮书为依归,有糊弄事实的嫌疑”,这句反驳倒真的有点为反驳而反驳的嫌疑了。

《联邦宪法》是我国最高的法律,以它为依归到底如何糊弄了事实?要是这个观点可以成立的话,魏总团长首先就得为民众解释,为何当年希山慕丁举剑引起华社群情汹涌时,马青却以举《联邦宪法》的本子作为回应方式?莫非当年马青也在糊弄事实?

马华领袖这几天不断质疑行动党无法制衡回教党,可是现在民联三党所发表的“以联邦宪法和民联橙皮书为依归”后,至少兑现了其早前许下的“只要其中一党不赞成,将不会落实回教国”的承诺。要是民联违背对人民的承诺,自然也逃不过民意的裁决

民众有绝对权利怀疑民联三党将来是否可以继续保持这项承诺,就如同民众怀疑国阵能否在不下野的情况下为国家带来全面及彻底的改革一样。

这,不也正是朝野两线实力拉近后,双方都被逼战战兢兢的最大好处吗? 

47 comments:

Anonymous said...

still defending hudud law.
leng kek mun- dont always dreaming Putrajaya and pls think about the future of our next generation and country. Hopeless !!!

凌国文 said...

不如你直接指出,我哪一句在defending hudud law?

凌国文 said...

难道马华没有教会你更实际的论点?加油啊!

Anonymous said...

凌兄,有什么办法,人家已经没有其他东西可以讲了,不就不断重复乱hood咯。

Anonymous said...

問 馬華支持者對拿督莫哈末卜艾的話, “你怎麼說‘?


巫統最高理事( 也是教育部副部長) 拿督莫哈末卜艾說,巫統沒有拒絕推行伊斯蘭刑事法.


卜艾:民聯友黨會反對‧丹州難推行伊斯蘭法
2011-10-01 18:59

(吉隆坡1日訊)巫統最高理事拿督莫哈末卜艾說,伊斯蘭黨要在吉蘭丹推行伊斯蘭刑事法的做法,猶如是在發白日夢,因為即使是在丹州實行,也會遭到民聯其他友黨的反對。

他舉例說,今年,伊斯蘭黨政府要在丹州禁彩票,即遭到友黨反對;吉打州政府要在齋戒月停止娛樂活動,也是因為友黨反對而不了了之。

“伊斯蘭黨過去指該黨的鬥爭獲得友黨的認同和接受,該黨與行動黨擁有良好關係,但伊斯蘭刑事法課題引發的風波,揭穿了伊斯蘭黨的謊言。”

也是教育部副部長的卜艾今日移交“一個馬來西亞電腦”給峇都區學生後受詢時說,推行伊斯蘭刑事法並非巫統的問題,但伊斯蘭黨卻把巫統牽扯在其中。

他說,巫統沒有拒絕推行伊斯蘭刑事法,不過,巫統在這課題上比較實際,著重於其他更重要的課題,如消滅貧窮、給予教育和公平對待等,這也屬於伊斯蘭教義的其中一部份。
(星洲日報)

October 1, 2011 8:09 PM

Anonymous said...

你可以保证伊斯兰党不会落实伊斯兰法治国的目标吗?今天聂老在我的家乡祷告,希望来届大选民联能取得三分二的国会议席,以便落实伊斯兰法治国的目标!

Anonymous said...

if PAS can be trusted, sun will rise from west.

Anonymous said...

PAS under Nik Aziz is 100% more trustworthy than UMNO under any UMNO members.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter to us even if the sun will to rise from west.

但是相信BN只有死路一条。。

Anonymous said...

回教刑事法, 有什么问题...... 没犯法的人, 何必要怕...
尤其是贪赃枉法的人,更应被惩罚... 不对么???

zeus said...

没有人可以保证回教党不会落实伊斯兰法治国的目标
但现实是民联三党的实力接近,就算回教党一意孤行要落实伊斯兰法治国的目标
只要火箭和蓝眼反对,回教党在议席不够之下也无可奈何

我也可以问谁可以保证巫统不会落实伊斯兰法治国的目标?(或任何不利华人的政策)
但国阵内巫统一党做大,如果巫统一意孤行,就算国阵内的马华、民政之流如何在这项课题上与巫统“无法达到共识”,巫统也可以绕过马华民政实行任何你们不同意的法律

老实说,我也不信回教党(也信不过安华),但我相信民联内三党制衡的力量。在民主体制下,人民应该怀疑所有政党,把领导人神化到无懈可击,然后大家一起和他喊口号、膜拜他是几千年前的封建想法咯~

Anonymous said...

对咯,非回教徒就算拍A片也不会切小鸡鸡的。

Anonymous said...

做么卖华这么怕伊斯兰法治国????

小李飞刀 said...

蠢人,因为卖华的废材太多贪污了,怕被抓去切掉鸡鸡。。。

Anonymous said...

原来如此。。那说歪理的人会被砍舌头咯。。难怪WS那条狗那么怕。。

Lawrence Teh said...

Zeus, 你讲到重点了。挺你一下!

Anonymous said...

yes, islam law / hudud law is the best law in the world.
we all no need to work hard but just praying to Allah when problem comes.

Lawrence Teh said...

楼上的不懂是不是鬼上身,这里有谁赞过回教法?

凌兄上面不是问过你 -不如你直接指出,我哪一句在defending hudud law?- 怎样?答不出啊?继续自己讲自己爽啦sohai。

Anonymous said...

To anonymous 12.02,

Yes, I fullly argeed with your remark. That is why DAP support Hudud law. Longlife DAP, longlife DAP

Anonymous said...

To Those DAP gang

More n more materials released by PAS showed that DAP support Hudud law.
Leng kek mun- don't deny , argue like bohood Lim Guan Eng

Anonymous said...

做么卖华这么怕伊斯兰法治国????

Anonymous said...

Longlife DAP
Longlife PAS
Longlife Hudud Law
Longlife DAP gang

Lawrence Teh said...

什么Material那么厉害?有就拿出来啦。
如果连DAP都支持回教法,我奇怪为什么回教法还不能落实?

这不就是典型的马华枪手咯。问他问题答不处,只会颠倒是非当读者是傻瓜。马华真的没有人才了吗?

Lawrence Teh said...

凌国文deny了什么?讲来听下,不要卖关子啦。

Lawrence Teh said...

如果连DAP都支持回教法,我奇怪为什么回教法还不能落实?

这不就是典型的马华枪手咯。问他问题答不处,只会颠倒是非当读者是傻瓜。马华真的没有人才了吗?

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous 1240

Non of Malaysian Chinese dare to say I 'm not worry implementation of hudud law. If u dont know, pls do not mislead others.

Lawrence Teh said...

如果连DAP都支持回教法,我奇怪为什么回教法还不能落实?

答不出啊?

这不就是典型的马华枪手咯。问他问题答不处,只会颠倒是非当读者是傻瓜。马华真的没有人才了吗?

Anonymous said...

lawrence teh

I think non of malaysia political party own those experts in argue, talk nonsense, deny n etc EXCEPT DAP

Lawrence Teh said...

还是答不出?如果连DAP都支持回教法,我奇怪为什么回教法还不能落实?

这不就是典型的马华枪手咯。问他问题答不处,只会颠倒是非当读者是傻瓜。马华真的没有人才了吗?

Lawrence Teh said...

看死你这个马华仔是不能自圆其说的啦,我要去睡觉料。你慢慢想啦。

Anonymous said...

to anonymous 1253

absolutely agree with u.

Lawrence Teh said...

哇厉害,一人分饰多角自己挺自己,可是还是没有回答到如果连DAP都支持回教法,为什么回教法还不能落实?

james said...

lawrence teh,

这些枪手或青蛙素质实在太差, 遇到一个这么简单的问题都不会回答.

我只思考了半分钟就懂得用 "飞将" 法回答, 当然我也思考了后着. 看看这些枪手或青蛙若是用"飞将"法回答, 我自有后着压抑对方不能用"飞将"法.

不懂什么是"飞将" 法? 多玩点中国象棋就知道了.

Anonymous said...

Why MCA is finished
Sunday, 02 October 2011
Comment by Thomas Lee

I think the MCA will be totally wiped out at the next general election for the following reasons:

(1) The people, especially the educated urban voters, are fed up and want a big and drastic change. So they will dump the MCA and Gerakan, and will go all out to vote for the alternative front, especially the DAP.

(2) Looking at the type of leaders the MCA currently has, it is obvious that almost none of them are fit and credible to be elected representatives. The MCA will lose if it fields its present leaders and those who lost in the last general election, including the foolish ones who talk rubbish all the time (like the stupid fellow who wants to set up a "Chinese Perkasa" or that silly Penang woman who attacked Guan Eng for giving projects to Malay contractors via open tenders).

(3) If the DAP fields candidates like the late Teoh Beng Hock's sister against the MCA president's son in Johore, he will lose his deposit. Donald Duck will also be roasted and lose his deposit if he is fielded again. There is no hope for any MCA candidate in Penang, and the party should stay out of the state or risks having all its candidate lose deposits there.

(4) The people are wise enough not to be convinced by the so-called "achievements" MCA president Chua Soi Lek boasted about, as they know it is the massive rejection of the MCA and BN at the last general election that resulted in Najib and Umno giving the concessions to the people, not because of what the MCA has done.

(5) Even the MCA grassroots members have no confidence in the party, with many defecting to join the DAP or PKR. If the MCA claim that it has nearly a million members is true, how come its votes in the previous general elections are way below the million-mark? Even its previous president Ong Tee Kiat and ex-Wanita chief Chew Mei Fun have given the thumbs-down to the current leaders, especially the president, saying he should not be fielded by the BN.

(6) The educated and intelligent people know that the MCA is servile and subservient to Big Brother Umno in the BN, and all its leaders in the Cabinet are merely window-dressing political mannequins with no essential policy-making power. They are used to make announcements of policies, programmes and projects decided by their Umno bosses, but are not part of the real decision-making process in the government. The wise, intelligent and intellectual will obviously not support the MCA.

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/letterssurat/43846-why-mca-is-finished

Anonymous said...

Those DAP supporter always talk big.
MCA is finished ?????

Now, get your bohood Lim Guan Eng come down Johor to campaign !
Will he dare to come to Johor ???

Anonymous said...

We Johoreans will definitely welcome any DAP or PR representatives/candidates to Johor! Cheers!!!

吳啟聰 said...

文兄,不是“回教国”,不是“回教黨”,正確的說法是“伊斯蘭國”,是”伊斯蘭黨“,您沒看報紙的嗎?

http://opinions.sinchew-i.com/node/21052

Anonymous said...

Go and read the below thread in JBTalks (most popular Johor Forum) then you will know the views of most Johoreans regarding LGE.. :)

http://www.jbtalks.cc/thread-1085658-1-2.html

Anonymous said...

"...... The wise, intelligent and intellectual will obviously not support the MCA."

Absolutely agree with Thomas Lee's opinions.

Pity those who MCA imbeciles who keep on posting rubbish in this blog. 垃圾應該丟進收垃圾的污桶,這麼簡單的道理和工作都不懂,真笨蛋!

Caroll said...

那位吴启聪除了这些无聊话题就没有其他东西可以攻击凌国文了?

马华的“名笔”怎么尽是这种水准之流?难怪凌国文也懒得回应你们了。

Anonymous said...

只要三党中有任何一党不同意,回教国或者伊斯兰国知易行难,这个当然,政权未到手,必然这么讲。
其实不必三党同意,只要首相人选是由伊斯兰党的人出任,三党同意是迟早的事。
哈迪阿旺或末沙布当首相的话,你以为他还会在意行动党?所有回教化的政策,你以为他们还会问过行动党?
哈迪只要问一句:“谁是首相?”或者“你是不是不想再当副首相?”你看行动党会怎样答?

Caroll said...

所以我说,马华就只会不断当幻想家和预言家,除了预测算命,就没有其他有营养的东西可以写了。

那么喜欢预测,不如先为自己来届大选预测一下?

Anonymous said...

The above guy has now so active in writing message to newspaper hoping that his immediate boss (backdoor deputy minister) will propose him as candidate for his kampung constituency as the present state assembly man has proposed to step down in the coming general election.
He continuosly using the islamic laws and hudud as topic to attack his oppornent, but how much did he knows about the islamic laws and hudud, better not to confuse the chinese community.
In real fact, if arm-no were to sweep majority seats, his component members has no say to stop them from implementing the islamic laws. As we are aware that it is only timely factor on when the arm-no government will impose the above laws in this country.
Statement of quick the BN by the MCA and gerakan merely as hidden fears for not being supported. And this has been confirmed by the deputy president yesterday in the AGM.
Die or live the chinese votes will decide in the 13th general election for which they have working so hard from now to continue spreading false and ilogical facts in any gatherings.

A Parent

qym said...

当今大马
作者:求真
http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/177449

魏家祥许多空洞无物的形容词加上如“睁着眼睛说瞎话、祸国殃民、同心同德 ,无惧变革、“人类”受到民联挑拨。”……我真的本着对真理的追求与信仰,愤怒异常,如此是非颠倒的言辞是欺哄马华、马青都是只有概念没有逻辑思考能力还是真的以为真理是马华国阵人讲了算?

Anonymous said...

BN supporters 就是從上到下都愛睜著眼睛說瞎話,總自以為謊言說得多就成真,歪理硬拗就會成真理!!!

早上無意間瞄到新洲日報的頭版,唷!馬華這麼 ,出動漂亮媚妹,幹啥! 司馬懿之心,路人皆知!如那些空心菜是馬華權貴的親人,馬華有難,為黨犧牲,以報黨魁多年給的民脂民膏,或回報衣食父(夫)母恩,外人可勿話可說,只盼選民懂得自重,愛護家人。如果是無知良家的女孩,那這些黨魁真是無良無德之極!

Fair仔 said...

只要三党中有任何一党不同意,回教国或者伊斯兰国知易行难,这个当然,政权未到手,必然这么讲。
其实不必三党同意,只要首相人选是由伊斯兰党的人出任,三党同意是迟早的事。
哈迪阿旺或末沙布当首相的话,你以为他还会在意行动党?所有回教化的政策,你以为他们还会问过行动党?
哈迪只要问一句:“谁是首相?”或者“你是不是不想再当副首相?”你看行动党会怎样答?

我想这是中了国阵毒太深的言论。。。

类西敏制的国会,是要各党的国会议员在国会联合占大半议员的支持才能成为首相。 如果说少任何一党的支持,随时都可以倒阁!

接下来如果能政权伦替,或以后的变天都不大可能有政党夺得2/3。

国阵特别是污桶强势了这么久,当然会出现"暴君"的独裁者。长期的2/3席位真是羡慕死别的发达国家的执政者。 就算以现在的议会比例,国阵也还是很强势。

这种首相揽完权力的畸型现象, 是强人政治的产物,"你"做了改变它?

**你做不做得成首相还得靠"我们",那时候的"首相"还敢讲"懒叫话"吗?

不要把副首相看得那么重,那是虚位,宪法没有阐明一定要有副首相。 如果没有加内阁部长职位,那个副首相是没有实权的。

争气点,"抢"其中一两个重要部门如财政部长,教育部长,内政部长,贸易部长,外交部长,国防部长等来做实际一点。

Anonymous said...