“我们没有对政府要求太多，因为我们深信可以自行办得到。”丹斯里林国泰在大马彩教育公益金推介礼上说了这句饶有意味的话。
诚然，我国华社多年来对华教的资助，早已成为了华人的“第二所得税”。
因为来自官方支援的不足，也因为秉持着“再穷也不能穷教育”的信念，华校的筹款运动似乎无日无之。叫人欣慰的是，华社从贩夫走卒到富商巨贾，皆不乏为了支持华教而慷慨解囊之热心人士。
日前获得媒体大事报道的由15名马新顶尖企业家和单位集资收购大马彩后成立的教育公益金，是最新的楷模。这个公益金所资助的学校除了华小，还包括淡小和教会学校。
教育乃强国之本，办教育是政府当仁不让的责任。华小多年来为国家栽培了多少人才，早已无须赘述。政府多年来为华小的发展给于了多少资助，大家也有目共睹。
富商联手资助缺钱的学校，不代表政府就可以少做一点。反之，正是因为政府做得不够，民间才需要发动自救行动。
教育部副部长魏家祥日前澄清，政府不会因为有人资助国民型学校而减少对这些学校的拨款。问题是，不减少拨款，就表示拨款足够了吗？政府难道期望我们对于这项“保证”给于掌声和鲜花？
要是政府真心认同华教是国家教育不可或缺的一环、要是政府衷心感激华教对我国人才培育的贡献，拜托不要继续在华社面前重复前面这两句台词，以实际行动来表示吧！
华小学生人数占学生总数的21巴仙，政府可以扪心自问，这21巴仙的学子有没有在所谓“一个马来西亚”的原则下获得成正比的发展拨款？
我们要的是制度上的保障，而不是口头上的赞赏，更不是每当选举来临时“你帮我、我帮你”的另类协商！
如林国泰所说的“我们没有对政府要求太多”，我们只要求我们所应得的。
109 comments:
拨款足不足够，这数据连政府都不敢公布，你说叻？？
当年公子首相还是教育部长时所实行的全与半津贴政策对华教就是一场恶梦~~
10月29日小弟我必须为母校的建校基金尽一分绵力，再穷也不能穷教育！！
都是鸟话。所谓捐助，不过是税务转移， 顺便赚点虚名。 不让制度"正常化“, 政棍就不停的在同样课题上打转。四十多年，政棍当然不累,我就觉得厌倦可恶。
This subject alone is sufficient reason for our family to feel contempt for BN and desire to boot them out of Putrajaya.
This subject alone should be sufficient to silence MCA's slogan of 有人在朝好辦事 if they still have some dignity for themselves.
教育拨款根本就是政府的责任，一位外国朋友对华小和独中办"筹款运动"感到不可思议,他说“筹款运动”通常是用在医院，残疾病院或孤儿院之类的，再听我解释全与半津贴政策的分别之后，WTF，根本就是歧视政策。
马华也是执政党，为何那么多年了还是不能够制度化的把它纳入？？经济财政预算案里？是要继续呈备忘录还是每一年的经济财政预算案都没份参与？ **政府不会因为有人资助国民型学校而减少对这些学校的拨款** 当然，有没有减少也不会大大声的说出来。
拨款大大不足够，政府数据有公布，只是太难看!
国小华小,拨款差异太大!
有人在朝好辦事? MCA早把华小福利卖光了.
被卖了!还得说谢谢帮忙争取!
一群政客和生意人的游戏！
没有人愿意做亏本生意的啦！
后面搞什么把戏只有上天知道！
自从那“以赌养校”的Analect祭出来后，那14位企业家就被人指指点点咯！甚为不值！
其实那大彩早先已是云顶囊中物，而是后来经过“高人”的劝告才成为今天的【教育公益金】。云顶和丰隆其实在“老的”时代是大敌对的，但也能抛弃前嫌为华教来合作；丰隆银行更为它提供了最优惠的end-financing！
唉，善人用恶法？其法亦善啦！
qym,
"教育拨款根本就是政府的责任，一位外国朋友对华小和独中办"筹款运动"感到不可思议,他说“筹款运动”通常是用在医院，残疾病院或孤儿院之类的，再听我解释全与半津贴政策的分别之后，WTF，根本就是歧视政策。" ....
I'm absolutely with you.
MCA got the cheek to threaten Chinese that if they don't get elected they'll be no Chinese Representatives in the cabinet!
Every year the national budget, allocation of funds for education stand ranking number one but the chinese schools hardly receive less than 5% of the total amount.
However, the shortage and insufficient for these type of schools usually burden by the chinese community and funds raising by schools.
As a good governance for the people, educations must be fair deals in development, expansion or maintenance and not to be adding burden to people especially the chinese social and corporate donations.
'Want Malaysia' the people are loving it.
A Parent
Dear DAP blind supporter,
You all simply sing the tune of DAP withuout really understand how government allocation to the school works. Please study first before u qualify to give such comments. Everyday u all said not enough, but how much is enough ? if government to give all the allocation to chinese school only also DAP will said not enough. In this world nobody will said money is enough. Don't mislead peoplelah please. I suggest DAP to put in buku jingga how to give allocation to SJK (C) and (T) fairly ? Why DAP never put in the Buku Jingga on the percentage allocation that should be given to each type of school ? because they know, if doing this PAS will not agree and DAP will also loose the Malay vote . I challange u all the DAP supporters to urge your leader to insist to put it this clause in the BUKU JINGGA. Oherwise don't keep on harpihg this issue for political gains only.
楼上的，
不是说国阵比民联更懂得治国的咩？
纳吉怎么不干脆比民联更快一步宣布按照比例制度化拨款给各源流学校？
“Everyday u all said not enough, but how much is enough ? ”
你看不懂中文？不明白什么是按学生人数比例？
如果你认为华小困境是行动党炒作出来的假象，别在这里浪费时间，何不马上请马华巡回全国向华人解释：“政府已经仁至义尽，你们不好再得寸进尺”？
To DAP Super Supporter -LengKekMun
Finally, the big mouth Peng CM Lim
apologized to Sultan Johor.
Ha.ha.. Syabas Johor !
We, Johorian must make DAP out of Johor in coming election. DAP "bungkus".
1：43的Anonymous，只有“执政党”有权利利用国库来发展华文和淡文小学，也只有“执政党”有责任把它纳入国家财政预算案里。不向“执政党”讨，难道向"反对党"要？民联执政之后没做到这点，一样会被干！
2:49pm的Anonymous, 我也是JB人，就算林冠英真的批评柔佛州治安不靖，有问题吗？
if the big mouth CM Lim is happy and satisfied with his statement , than he should not apologize to Sultan Johor. This is call NO hood... as what he said before.
Leng KM
Your No Hood CM Lim already apologized. Get him resign better lah.
Syabas Johor
被巫统把事情炒得那么大还加盐加醋，道歉还被说成no hood... 那尿肿来和马华诸公呢？有没有曾经大大方方的说道歉过？
apologized= no hood
rasuah = ???
diam-diam= ???
apologized= no hood
rasuah = go to died
diam-diam= no hood + no LP
我是土生土长的新山人，就算林首长真的说过柔佛罪案率高过槟城，我也100%完全同意。
新加坡人在新山被偷被抢的新闻我都听到厌了。
现在只希望柔佛人多多支持民联，即使不能够变天，至少送多几个民联议员入州议会。
受够了。支持民联！！ 拉倒国阵！
咦，无名氏不敢谈华校拨款课题了？那么快就转话题了？
对于国阵支持者来说，道歉真的是相当陌生的一个行为，哈哈哈哈！
国文兄，这些人如果有料的话就不用偷偷摸摸来发烂炸了，早就像你那样成为报章名笔或人气博客了。
不是吗？
志坚，其实都是同一个人罢了啦！可以check到的。
这位仁兄最近成了我的最忠实读者了，哈哈哈哈！
哈哈哈哈！！！
可怜的“英公”，前日厉声斥喝否认，昨日威风凛凛下逐客令，今日躲在龟壳里 im sorry,is my wrong, p/s forgive me....
典型大炮首长！！！hohoho....
Dear Kok Mun,
Pls asked your DAP leader to put in the allocation by head to all school if PR form government in next election in Buku Jingga first don't just give motherhood statement in the buku jingga. Pls also define what is mean by systematic allocation ?
Lim Guan Eng always act like a hero in the past. Now, he try to present to us what is the monkey and the meaning of "NO HOOD".
Kids said something wrong is accepted and correct it by given education.
Penang Chief Minister done stupid things in oversea dialog,... and he needs what ????
WS
Excellent !
Lim Guan Eng from Hero become little bear.
Ha.ha..
when Lim Guan Eng acting as a hero, Leng KM is a blind supper supporter.
When Lim Guan Eng become little bear c/w no hood, Leng KM is silent famous...commendor ????
国文兄， 猴子们在用激将法。
Q: What is the most courageous thing for a man to do?
A: To apologize.
This shows the man has integrity.
做那一样事需要最大的勇气？
不是上刀山，下火海，也不是入虎穴。
而是真心向人道歉。
这显示那个人很廉正，有很高的气节。
能曲能伸，才能表现大丈夫的气度。
一个从来不道歉的人，是个自以为是，心中没有其他人的高傲的人。kiasu, kiasi 的人。
Those who despise the person who apologizes, you are not man enough. What is wrong being apologetic? We are not a God. To err is human.
不道歉，也不敢道歉的人，其实他是担心从此以后就没有地位和尊严。这是不必要的担心和害怕。
说“道歉”等于没hood的人，他就是得了这种不必要的恐惧症。他才是没hood，没有种。
日本，南韩，和一些欧洲国家的领导人失职，他们会以辞职来谢罪。从来没见过我们的执政领袖有这么高的气节。只有一个被捉奸在床，辞职谢了罪，但后来还是堂堂正正做了总会长。他的hood是给人家舔的。
知错能改，善莫大焉。
不知错，不认错，也不改，时日不多矣。
林冠英，你又得了我多十分的敬重，有种！！
To all the Anonymous who clearly are BN supporters, therefore are reprobates in my eyes,
I pity you of your poor upbringing, lacking the guidance to differentiate between right and wrong, good and bad and leave your value system distorted to such uncivilized level. As such you are attracted to a party of equally low mentality and uncouth bahaviour.
If one were to call for a referendum in any normal civilized society to judge if there is any wrong in uttering the truth, I can guarantee you that LGE can have the full support, only those of the kind like Mugabe, Gaddafi similar type ie BN and your kind of supporters , with such upside down mind will say otherwise.
On the other hand, all the right minded citizens of the world will commend LGE for being a true gentleman, meek and loyal to his countrymen & supporters and for the peace , betterment and long term good of them, he takes up the cross and bear the humility, despite he is right but is wrongfully accused by the unscrupulous serpents. He is what we call a TRUE LEADER. In contrast, did any of your BN so called leaders have displayed such leadership quality?
Did Mahathir ever apologized for his bad mouth about Kelantan?
Did any of the corrupted leaders apologized to the nation for plundering the nation’s wealth, so poorly managed the country until we are so behind others? RM2.46 to change for SGD1 when in the late 70s it was 90sens for SGD1.00?
Did the PM apologized to AI and all the Bersih supporters for all the unjustifiable crude treatments from the FRU and those who were locked up for weeks & wrongly accused of being communists even without proof?
Did the health minister apologize for telling lies and failed to protect the interest of the hospital, medical staff and patients?
If I were to count all the wrongdoings of BN leaders, there will be no end till the sun rises and sets again.
LGE speaking the truth and was harassed by you lots but BN scumbags actually committed crimes and are LIARS, yet have the audacity to demand apologies!
Do we want our children to be ‘nurtured’ to adapt such perverted social values and lowly behaviour?
Is this the kind of society that we desire to have?
Though I’m brought up from a poor environment, but I do aspire to see our young to grow up to be a responsible being, having a noble character. I would rather have LGE has their role model . I will teach them that it would better for them to remain poor than to pick up any of such uncouth, sordid and contemptible characters from BN leaders and supporters.
I certainly would not like to see any of the young in my family to pick up such lowly behaviour from leaders like yours.
p/s Mr Leng, sorry to take up yr space here. I didn't meant to be so 'long winded' but just wish to pour my contempt on these scums of the earth like ws and his kind.
DenKhoo,
I'm absolutely with you. Wish I could express as clearly as you in Mandarin.
Anonymous of September 30, 2011 5:01 PM
不要在跟WS这傻佬玩下去，头脑环了无药可救，还在那洋洋德意‘沾沾自喜。
Den khoo,
我绝对赞成道歉文化！！
可是对一个前几天极力否认，下逐客令甚至要告倒媒体的一州之首今天却突然来个大转变，，，，你叫我们如何心服呢？
哈哈哈哈，不就让他响应菜CD的名句，继续自己讲自己爽咯。
我们把他当猴子戏来看不就好了。:)
够力了，酱够力严重，林冠英下届大选一定输定了。。。够力够力。。。马华这次肯定赢定了！Yes!
ws,
You don't understand English? LGE is being considerate and concern for the betterment of his countrymen and supporters. You lots hide under the YELLOw sarong of the samseng, still got the cheek to talk so loud? Shame to you and your progeny. Now I understand, when the UMNO goon mentioned the progeny of immoral women, he must have you lots in mind. Porr thing, you have sold your soul to the devil.
“我们没有对政府要求太多，因为我们深信可以自行办得到,我们只要求我们所应得的。"
连丹斯里林国泰的说话也可以扭曲来赚取廉价政治资本，行动党党员还有什么资格谈改朝换代？
我想问问文兄林国泰在那篇报道说出了以上的谈话，你应该要交代清楚这个看法，不然确实有颠倒是非，扭曲事实诬蔑公益金之嫌。
Lim Guan Eng's character will kill him one fine day by keep acting as hero,talking without using his smart brain.
The worst thing is his people surrounding him like Leng KM and other blind supporter will make him feel like the King.
Today, he learned something. Don't simply use "no hood" onto other people as it will come back to him finally.
猫头英要输一点都不难，只要南下柔州扛起“攻陷前线州”之名，看看会不会落荒而逃。。。哈哈哈哈
Ws sohai anggur cukup masam tak ?
文兄，别逃。。。
等着你给大家一个交代，从那复制林国泰的谈话。。。。哈哈哈哈
ws, 你这青蛙还真会跳, 从 "难道要全国巡回骑脚车？" 跳去 "谁说了算？"再跳到这个 post,
就是不敢表态支持或反对首相全国跑透透替华教筹款, ( 记得要想好好才表态, 不然又1个手指VS 4个手指, 或是你的boss知道了脸青青)
和 ws 這等跳樑小丑，是有理也說不清的。馬華和民政的支持者就是這等水平，垃圾配污桶，所以最愛骯髒錢，骯髒工業，也最愛耍骯髒手法。
這種小人，眼光短淺，是非不分，只會圖近利， 是不會懂君子之心和君子所謀的。
只有改朝換代，這個國家才可讓我們長居久安。希望下界大選，讓馬華最害怕的情景出現，柔州人民會和砂州人民看齊。
ws,
林冠英不只是有大丈夫的气度，他还很懂得说话的艺术。
如何把大事化小，小事化无？就是在第一时间内道歉。
试问如果有人不管他有没有错，他第一个马上向你道歉，请问你的气会不会消，还是火上加油？
有谁能够忍心的对一个道了歉的人，继续生气？
如果你还很生气的话，那就轮到你没有气度了。
To err is human,
To forgive is divine.
他不满TV3是因为他们错误报导，无中生有。所以不需道歉。
一个人的态度有180度急转弯，有什么问题？只要他能放下身段而道歉，退一步，海阔天空，说不定还会赢了苏丹的原谅。
对一个愿意道歉的人口诛笔伐，我是对他们没有一丝的尊重。
国阵里的人，学一学林冠英吧。
看来WS 不懂跳去那儿了, 也许等国文开了新贴, 他才会跳回来吧.
WS, 若是你不敢/不懂/不会回应, 就呱呱几声, 潜入水吧. 我就不追问你了.
我是很仁慈的, 你又不是畜生, 我是不会跟你计较的.
It is absolutely scarstic by someone from Gelang Patah (suppose to be appointed as election candidate by his party) that it was due to CM Lim statement causing the Johore economic slump and business man in difficulty. Such a brainless and crazy potential candidate making a baseless accusation merely to show off but has degrading himself as Johorean knows pretty well that the actual facts cannot be deny.
The recent slow down and business become weak was due to external financial crisis and the local share markets slump, commodity sharp drops in prices and lower demands, nothing concern of the security factor.
It was the BN government and those Ministers from Johore neglect to react and take early assumption to assist Johoreans on economic slowdown. Furthermore the internal political aggression and fears of breakdown in defencing their seats by the BN also posed an unsteady inflow of investment in the state.
The apology by CM Lim to Royal Sultan of Johore has obviously showned that he is a Leader of full responsiblity and high intergrity.
A Parent
A Parent,
是啊, 我看了都笑, 林冠英这么历害, 几句话就可以导至柔佛州出现百业萧条.
比立百, SARS , 禽流感更有杀伤力.
看来林冠英成了大马最危险的生化武器..哈哈.
林冠英不只是有大丈夫的气度，他还很懂得说话的艺术。
哈哈哈哈！！！！真笑死我了。。。
一名说了又不认，认了又不服，不服又乱套的首长因为有了录音无从抵赖而为自己过火的言论道歉也被视为是一种崇高的气度？？？？
DenKhoo真的把PLP的诠释演绎到出神入化，我现在终于相信“猫放的屁肯定芳香无比”， 哈哈哈哈。。。
WS,
糟糕啦，好像有痛脚被你捉到了，怎么办？林国泰到底有没有讲过那句话？
咦，等等。。。
2011年9月27日的《中国报》A5版，有刊载林国泰的谈话咧！
WS，快去找来看，然后指出我如何“扭曲事实诬蔑公益金”！
可以的话，还可以把我控上法庭呢！
快啊，别让我逃掉了。。。加油！
文兄，看看首相对undilah的回应：
针对政府是否已经禁播“投票吧”影片，纳吉斩钉截铁地否认此事。
“没有禁播，胥视电视台是否要播映。我们不会禁止这种东西。”
文兄，在事件还不明不白，根本毫无确凿证据的情况下，你前几天又迫不及待地“未审先判，先入为主”了。。
你又再次发挥你那超凡的想象力，在无真凭实据下把传闻当新闻、把谣言当事实，再砍头砍尾、断章取义的为民联灌票。。。汗颜！！
不是‘国阵’的纳吉禁播的。
是‘国阵’的'莱士雅丁'禁播的。
？？？？？？？
TMD, 到底有没有'国阵'精神？
qym,
You're right, 難道莱士雅丁造反了？不是說‘国阵‘ 很有團隊精神的？
DenKhoo,
ws 這等跳樑小丑，恐怕不懂何為君子，也不懂一個人的氣度決定他的高度的。Leadership qualities is sth too difficult for him to comprehend. Sigh!
ws,
dont waste your time to get those BLIND DAP supporter ie Leng KM to act properly cause his taiko also hv the same character.
Argue...denied... talk nonsense.
Once Sultan Johor just said : I'm offended.
Lim Guan Eng immediate apologize like a dog. Where is his "hood" ?
dont waste your time to get those BLIND MCA supporter ie ws to act properly cause his taiko also hv the same character.
Argue...denied... talk nonsense.
Once Umno just said : diam
Chua CD immediate apologize like a dog. Where is his "hood" ?
dont waste your time to get those BLIND DAP supporter ie ws to act properly cause his taiko also hv the same character.
Argue...denied... talk nonsense.
Once Umno just said : diam diam lah
Chua CD immediate apologize like a dog. Where is his "hood" ?
咦! 青蛙又跳回来了, 不过看来是患了失忆症, 对我之前问的事全忘了.
没关系,要谈undilah 吗 ?好, 纳吉说没有禁播, 莱士雅丁却说 undilah 有"令人不悦的内容" 不准播, 这很好嘛, 没想到只是短短一天, 国阵就学到民联对回教国 "一个课题,各自表述" , 很好很好, 这证明国阵内大家平起平坐, 自由言论, 尊重不等於同意, 很好嘛.
等等, 莱士雅丁的boss 不是纳吉吗 ? 下属几时跟boss 同等级了? 下属公然与首相唱反调, WS, 你认为该怎么办呢 ? 是首相管不住下属, 还是下属原本就说出首相的心意 ? 这非同小可, 一定要追究弄清楚, 不然有那一天 WS 你在网上说的话与你的boss 交待的话不一样, 被暗杠就不好啦.
si katak james lompat sini sana mencari tunang.
just wondering those DAP supporters are coming from Zoo ?
we have katak james, monkey qym..
who is ular, ayam, anjing ?
错要认, 打要企定 ! 这才有"hood" , 男人大丈夫知错能改, 善莫大焉. 难道有错不认, (像寥中赖否认般),对政府各样滥权贪污连哼都不敢哼 就是有hood ?
我终於明白为什么青蛙会抱着两粒鱼卵当hood, 因为两栖动物根本就连畜生都不如, 本身没hood , 又怎么盼望他们了解做人的道理 ?
wo.. thought katak james went to bed.
still lompat here and there.
楼上的几个anonymous ,玩分身说英语, 国语, 华语不累吗 ?
谁是青蛙, 观众心里有数.
替国阵说好话,却连名字都不敢放,怕被政府捉 ?我替你爸妈感到悲哀.
你们连 WS 都不如.
我跟的美国时间, 又是闲人一个, 若有人要跟我斗谈到大马时间凌晨 5,6 点都没问题, 只怕你老板不会给你 overtime claim
only those people who think who they are, then they are.
Tips to u: I think therefore I am.
So, U think katak, therefore u are katak.
ha..ha..ha
Good9 si Katak James
to 12.38am annoymous, we have many people here think you are a katak, so you are a katak ?
stupid dumber.
国文，我们大家不用再回应卖华狗任何的话题，
来这只是要跟一群志同道合的朋友一起欣赏及
认同你的文章，多余的狗我们可以不用理会，
也不用回应，让它们自叫自爽吧。
时间到，我们一起送它们去荷兰。
不管它们说什么都只会让我们更反感。
站米司，原来你的时事知识是这么有限？？？莱士雅丁又不是内政部长何德何人有禁播影片的权利呢？？
莱士雅丁重申，当局早前禁播该部短片的决定，因为该短片尚未获得电检局的批准。
“电检局并不在新闻部旗下，而是隶属内政部，它将定夺该短片是否适合播放。”
而隶属新闻部掌管的大马通讯及多媒体委员会解释，由于“投票吧”短片迄今还未获得电检局批准播映，因此该委员会才要求电视台停止播映短片。这是委员会的一般作业，并强调在1998年通讯及多媒体法令下，该委员会都有进行例常的监督与执法行动。
“基于此，多媒体委员会要求撤除那些还未获得电检局批准播映的内容，只是一件正常的作业。”
WS, 你没资格再向我问问题, 等你回应了你支不支持首相全国跑透透再说.
错要认, 打要企定 ! 这才有"hood"
林首长应该不止有两粒hood，哈哈哈哈！！
一名从开始的逞强嘴硬，说要将人告到脫裤子，到后来变成“没有记录，不确定有没有唱衰柔佛”，再到后来谈话录音被广传，惹到柔佛苏丹龙颜不悅，才急忙悻悻然道歉的首长，尽然被他的支持者冠上够hood，又是一部硬生生的PLP续集。。。
我到觉得英哥有够可怜的：“从孝天犬变成了丧家之犬，铁窗首长变成了讲骗话的阿扁”。。。hahahaha...
卖华又放WS疯狗出来乱吠乱咬人鸟。。
夏虫不可语冰, 青蛙不可言 hood.
哈哈, 无hood 之物要评论别人有没hood, 岂不可笑.
楼上的 2:08 AM ,纠正下, 青蛙是两栖动物, 不是狗, 没有hood 的.
一个只会跳来跳去的青蛙, 只会说我们为反对而反对, 当我们这些所谓反对派都支持首相全国跑透透筹款时, 他却不敢表态, 我看不只没有hood, 连口内的那粒腭垂也没有, 所以才不敢出声.
James 所有的anonymous=ws sohai来的相信你也知，这个卖华dog脑贱+白痴 脸皮又厚自讲自爽，m'laysia tak dah harap kalau ada ramai org pny otak macam WS sohai .
2:39 AM anonymous, "like" 一个给你 !
如果这些非人类物体敢去国文facebook 玩, 一定很精采. 一定有更多人欣赏他们的落力演出.
哈哈哈，笑，笑，有什么好笑的？好笑meh?
照你这么说，林首长的痛脚给你捉到了，很得意吧？那下一步该怎么做，怎么说？ 请分享。
在国阵里，平均每个礼拜都会有人重蹈林首长的覆撤，议员部长们滑稽的借口和辩解，这种新闻，差不多天天都有，挡也挡不住，避也避不了。不如先给我们学会了，好让我们来修理他们，娱乐大家。
好了，现在我要先调整一下自己，大幅降底我的逻辑思考能力和成熟度，来和你一般见识。
要不要先拿民政党的林时彬来下手，他把蔡天强的马赛地型号搞错了，也没什么把柄好对付蔡天强，过后只说了非常遗憾几个字，半句道歉也没有。
我先让你开口，我再搭上，我们一唱一和。怎么样？
下次再教会我怎么消遣总会长， 副教育部长，卫生部长,交通部长，旅游部长。
对了, 有话跟 September 30, 2011 5:01 PM 的annoymous 说.
佩服你写的这么长的留言, 如果是 marco yap等之流的马华人还会跟我们理性论政, 这班非人类物体, 对於你说的各种道理,事实,印证只会视而不见. 你越是理性论证, 它们越是指鹿为马, 错误引导, 转移话题, 最后说不过就逃之夭夭.
既然是非人类物体, 我们就跟他们玩玩文字游戏好了. 就如楼上的DenKhoo 一样, 反正像我这般的人多的是, 有大把美国时间玩玩.
国文兄, 你的时间宝贵, 除非必要, 别浪费时间陪它们玩, 写多几篇精采的文章当做是给我们弹药来陪他们玩.
ws 那班傢伙 大概是練西邪的“TOAD"功夫而走火入魔而至 腦袋長錯地方，所以說的話都是顛三倒四的 廢話連篇。 It is no point of trying to converse with such a pathetic moron which is close to a beast, least to say establishing an intellectual debate! There can never be any fruitful communication. I shall just give up on such weirdly mutated species and spend my time to listen to some good music to refresh my spirit.
Thanks James. As I just said (October 1, 2011 3:28 AM) , ws and his gang have their brain born at the wrong part of the body, so I rather go and do something more entertaining. These beasts are totally 'unteachable' and beyond redemption.
楼上的3.28am , they are not close to a beast, they are already beast, some even worse, are amphibian and pretend they are "prince".
ya, to 3.36am , agreed, i am also entertaining myself and playing game "UFO extraterrestrials" , shotting the disgusting alians which look like frog+beast.
講到政府撥款給非土著學校，53年從來沒有變，就是面包肖一點兒。華人辦教育一來都是自力更生，這就我們的民族血性。從前如此，今後也如此。我們也不需要浪費力氣批評國陣，咱們知道如何投下手中的一票就行啦。狗宫滿朝，打手滿街。好知為智。
Mr Leng, Bravo! Keep it up.
哈哈哈哈！！！
行动党的家传秘方，讲不过了就以畜生问候？？太没品。。。。不过也已习惯，这是他们的文化。。。。
介绍一篇生动的文章让大家共赏：
http://limfang.blogspot.com/
好料！！！
I hope those right minded fellow people who have relatives and friends in Johore, Selangor and all other states with pro UMNO with "more than special rights" scoundrels and waste, will in private & confidence, explain to them :
* The attributes of good leadership and the importance of us being discerning. The rights, dignity & honour of a citizen has to be earned. Therefore, it is important to value one's voting rights and utilize it wisely, without fear or favour. Enlighten them to understand how we are being down graded to a class less than Indons who just migrated over here and how our progeny will be affected if we don't wake up now.
* The ill of the controlled media & the resulting unethical MSM, ( Of which even some of the once professional editors in popular Chinese media has turned to be sycophants ), how they use unjustifiable coverage to cloud readers' mind and blur audience vision in subtlety or openly and the adverse consequences of people continue supporting them.
* The ill social effects if uncorrected, of the uncouth, sordid and contemptible culture, that will be passed down to our future generations.
* The importance of the next GE as it is very crucial in terms of the happenings that we have witnessed since the last GE.
- The performance of Penang & Selangor compare to when they were under BN. ( Even the other 2 states have less corruptions which is the root cause of ills. It is a social cancer, if not treated asap, when it reaches the state of Zimbabwe, it will be too late. Just look at the ills left behind by Marcos, for decades, that country is still behind those that once trailed behind it.
- The Perak fiasco and the implication of the underling culture and mindset of those in power.
- The turmoil of the danger of global financial meltdown and compare the attitudes and efforts shown by our leaders and the little dot down South. The intrinsic value of ringgit compare to SDG.
There are many issues that ordinary citizen or no opposition party can address in public. Other than the notorious jungle rule, the BN goons can and will make use of those with extraordinary special rights as the decoy to humiliate and silence them in a most ridiculous way. ( Selangor MB knows it & he takes all on himself to protect the innocent and I guess LGE & Khalid are of 1 mind.)
Sorry that I've to write in English because it me much longer time to do it in Mandarin with my little toy. Besides, because of circumstances, can't remember some of the Chinese characters & phrases.
I'm only an ordinary citizen but from young, under the influence of my late father, I disdain corruptions and the resulting injustice & social ills due to the unscrupulous politicians. I'm so glad to see many of you here share the same opinions and hope together we can help this beautiful country to get back onto the right track. We are the ones who truly love Malaysia and our ancestors sure won't need to spin in the grave like those of ws and his gang.
To tell the truth, I never like to read anything written by Lim fang even during the time when many still esteem him. My gut feelings ( Learnt from my late father ) has always been that he is not a steadfast person.
资深报人 ? 哈哈, 因不良嗜好集於一身而晚节不保, 需要蔡CD救济, 何足惧之 ?
那一篇 "教Sohlan认识Sohai" 还不是自投苦吃不敢回应 ? 现在还要用 sohai ? 哈哈 !
楼上的各位朋友,
既然WS说 "已经习惯被称呼畜生" , 那么我们这些没品没官的人不称呼他为畜生於礼不合, 还是继续以非人类物体的各式名称叫他们吧.
Ws
enjoy reading Lim Fang's article.
those DAP blind supporters feel a bit no face with their bohood Lim Guan Eng's apology.
Furthermore, nobody dare to shot Nik Aziz when being remarked as kids who scared of ghost... ha ha.
In my last month business trip to Philippines, talking to a local taxi driver, who used to study in Singapore 20 years ago, and occasionally travel to Johor Bahru during holidays. And he said that JB was a nice quiet town.
I told him, no more. JB is now a busy city, and notorious for its high crime rate. It is not safe to walk on the street.... etc.
Damn... should I apologize to the Sultan for telling that Philippino the truth?
If it is really a problem, admit it and change it lah? Forbid people from mentioning it will not improve the situation.
This is a typical BN gov's mentality, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Everything is perfect under BN. They are still living in their own tempurung.
50 years ago, we looked down Japan. Calling Japanese goods as cheap!
40 years ago, we looked down Taiwan. Study in Taiwan means no future!
30 years ago, we looked down Hong Kong, Korea... For making us low quality products!
20 years ago, we looked down China.
People spit everywhere, talk loud.
They are all advanced nations now. 我们还是原来的我们!
Now we look down Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia.... They are slowly overtaking us, and Najib gov still telling our people kita maju, aman dan makmur!
So who is really no hood?
1. People admit the mistake and learn from the mistake? or,
2. People never admit mistake even though the whole world know the mistakes were made?
BN supporters will say #1. And they are damn proud of it.
ws, thanks for sharing limfang's blog. Else I won't know Chua CD fangpi again.
蔡细历讲了什么？
“我敢說，今天20%的華裔大專生都是進入馬華所創辦的拉曼大學與拉曼學院，這是值得自豪的成就，可是很多人卻不欣賞。他們也沒有想過，若非馬華為家庭收入較低的年輕人提供可負擔的教育機會，每年約2萬人到底要去哪裡？”
“我現在感覺混亂，不懂要或不要。一旦有了主張，就會立刻行動，除了太太及家人之外，沒有人可以影響我要不要參選。”
“最壞的日子已過去，馬華會在下屆大選取得比308大選較好的成績。不敢說華人選票已全面回流到馬華，因為馬華在1999年、2004年最輝煌的時候，也沒有獲得大多數華人的選票。”
如果馬華在下屆大選的成績不如308，馬華除了不入閣外，我本人也會辭職。“（辭職）對我來說問題不大，我拿得起，放得下。”
LMFAO!
Ws 这sohai还在自盗自眼、垂共烂趴送、答非所问，问非所答卖华党搏混还杀出一位sohai来hood,真是饭贱！！加油！快到100楼了。
To All DAP Supporters
No Hood or Bohood is populared by Lim Guan Eng.
Now, we just return back this title to him.
One Fine day, Sohai or solan to be returned to Hew Kuan Yau soon.
Aiyoo, DAP claims they are the robin hood. But now with the PAS insistence to implement hudud law, better call them robin hudud party. Haaaaaa
卖华党的价值观，佩服，佩服！
風語者，
說得好！BN supporters 就是從上到下都愛睜著眼睛說瞎話，總自以為謊言說得多就成真，歪理硬拗就會成真理!!!
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/177415
BN so good, freedom to speech on nasilemak 2.0 issue , no yes man, all can give own comment.
so , what is the different with PR when talk about "回教刑法" ? all can give own comment ?
the BN running dog please remember when you point 1 fingure, another 4 fingure point at yourself.
To Anonymous 2:46
We are talking facts. Bohood Lim Guan Eng is a liar n fake hero. When PAS Nik Aziz shot DAP,and wanted implement hudud law, all DAP gang keep silent.
Before Sultan Johor make statement, Lim Guan Eng still show us hero acting- argue, denied, talk nonsense. "I'm offended" -- make Bohood Lim Guan Eng immediate change and turn 180 degree. What is this fake hero.
Mark,
It is universally known fact that Lim Guan Eng has managed Penang much better than his predecessor.
I don't know him personally and have never met him but he has earned my respect not just because of his performance in Penang but more so of his upright character. The fact that he was sent to jail unjustly for advocating for the poor underaged Malay girl and her granny yet still hold fast of his love to serve this country has earned much admiration from me and my family and friends.
Now his apology shows that he has grown in grace and again proved that he is a true gentleman, thoughtful and always put his fellow countrymen interest above his own which makes us feel more proud of him. Likewise Selangor MB also shows the profundity of his character which shallow cum uncultured lots like you and the BN goons can never comprehend, what a pity, sigh!
Your talk of losing face shows how immature and wrong is your value and thought pattern. No wonder your health minister also never apologize to the public despite of being in the wrong. I suppose he is like you, have never truly lived in a civilized world and thus has adopted this kind of mentality. No wonder that LTL's talk/challenge to opposition always shows himself to be “ 很小家”，沒有器度和高度。No wonder that MCA/Gerakan can never produce a statesman other than 政棍。
Why should anybody shoot Nik Aziz for his personal view? He is a deeply convicted religious old gentleman who walks his talk and therefore deserve our respect. His talk is like an old uncle telling small children his view which he perceives to be correct, full stop. We all have old uncle/auntie, with different views from ours & tell us off sometimes ( Though in our hearts we disagrre with him/her ) , don't we?
He is unlike the hypocrite cum corrupted racist Dr M whom has a mind as twisted as all his followers and disciples like you lots, with a foul mouth despite of his old ripe age. It is this kind of disgusting character that for one's own selfish agenda can stoop low to the pit to stir shits and pollute the society that will called for contempts.
我覺得國陣的文化，管理和黨員都像極了私會黨的文化，關理和黨員。他們給人的印像就是 “有牌” 爛仔。
Dont worry and get hitted up, just only the make chinese angree nuts are here barking, dare to make a survey from the chinese community of Johorean and the social class if they agree Johore has not been threatened by popular snatch, robbery, thief and even kinapping.
The people are getting even annoy to use this topic and belittle CM Lim for his truthfulness and twisted by the arm-no media to accuse a chinese leader. It has become a negative effect and expecting increasing votes for the PR in the coming general election.
Johore state will be the next to sweep away PLP party and hence to send them to Holland as their president has mentioned.
It will be a 8 degree rocks and quake as the strong winds has blown over from neighbour countries to the south as people are getting fedup of the 'mas' government.
A parent
http://www.merdekareview.com/reader_view_v2.php?id=18859
马华不只无智，也无人才
作者／陈书墉 Sep 29, 2011 10:01:10 pm
我的意见是回应: 阴魂不散，就让它继续努力！！
已经没有得选择，但马华已经玩到出面，再也没有话题，甚至现在出卖自己也不在所惜。
一直以来，马华提出回教法的言论来骗取没机会看清事实的人民的人儿，也许不多，但至少马华讲得爽，听得讲，然後能向自家的人儿说：喂，我上过报章，你有没有？你是什么东东？当然接下来要出选时也会问对方有没有上过报纸，这叫 “你连报纸都没上过，要连我比？”
虽然大部份的上过报章的言论，当然能见报的都被美化了，还能见世，但真正人民再深入的想那么一小想就知道，只有4个英文字母：TNND。对不起，不是 F的那4个字，我不是姓黄的。
马华讲了么？听了么？爽了么？咱们来个深入些的。
当然，回教型法的事，一直来，被夸大的，被放大的（被蚊子咬却说成癌症的事），都是马华在干。他们不懂回教法？晕，执政党的人不懂？那只有“睡觉”才能被解说。反对吧，魔鬼化吧，但现在清楚了，甚至在要被被“执行前”（巫统及马华通过了），民联人们不能执行。
所谓的执行，就是 “律法” 早就被通过，还是被 巫统及在丁州的某个马华的人支持通过的。
那怎样？反对吧，在外反对，在内睡觉。在内支持，在外做好人？原来高调问政的是。。。高调表情给人们看，不需要知道自己知不知道是不是现实。
回教党早就说了是老马搞得不能做（执行回教型法），虽然州已经（包括丁州）通过了，但中央不通过，还是不能执行，这是个特别直接，根本的问题。报章上总不可能没说吧？
但马华的人怎了？看不见？听不到？
写了这么多，DAP已经成功不让 回教型法 被执行了（其实DAP有能力么？宪法轮不到DAP来改），可是马华呢？
死缠着DAP，迫DAP执行回教型法？
没脑的人太多了，但为为为什么都被发现，都是马华的领导团的化表呢？
自己笨没关系的，真的没关系，为什么马华给人看了 咕咕叫 大大条，还让人看 没脑呢？
当初反对回教型法，现在迫得DAP去执行回教型法？都清清楚楚表明是不能被执行的，还要强追？？？迫DAP去执行回教型法？
马华啊马华，笨，无所谓的，但没有必要笨给人民看吧？
回教黨的意圖從無改變，他們堅認自家的家法最好，所以要強行實施在自家人身上，這一點外人完全沒有意見，但現在的問題是，誰相信他們有更大的執政權之後，不會用自已的家法強施在別家人身上？
非穆斯林並非排斥伊斯蘭刑事法，而是擔憂政客說話不算數，到時候硬硬將它實施在非穆斯林身上而已。當其他教徒犯錯而受到其他家法的懲罰時，在某種意義上來說，也等於是在冒犯自家的信仰，到時候是犯一個錯卻被兩個神處罰，簡直是滔天大罪了。
人們依然懷疑，待適當時機一到，回教黨必祭出伊斯蘭法號令全國非穆斯林屈服，以示公正，簡單的說，如果穆斯林偷竊被罰斷肢，非穆斯林卻是罰款了事，一國施二法，如此怪胎，要如何管治？
這一點明眼人很清楚，其他二黨火箭和藍眼更清楚，他們只是還沒“符”改變回教黨在這方面的宗旨和執著，但相信非穆斯林選票已經在動搖了。
this article is taken form
http://liangtneh.blogspot.com/2011/09/blog-post_30.html
“他們只是還沒“符”改變回教黨在這方面的宗旨和執著，但相信非穆斯林選票已經在動搖了。”
这一句其实很对。
针对此事，非穆斯林的我的确有想过支持民联是否还是对的？民联酱的合作是否可以work？
如果卖华的有一点政治智慧，明白什么叫作无为，静静的隔岸观火。相信很多非穆斯林民联支持者肯定会在動搖！
可惜卖华的这时候见机不可失，开始开声胡乱炮轰火箭。不开声还好，一出声就令人睹烂。好像楼上讲的，到最后变成迫DAP去执行回教型法？
卖华呀卖华，什么时候才会学聪明一点？我们老祖宗的四书五经拿来读一下啦！
1) Rampant corruptions
2) Apartheid Practices
3) Inefficiency in resource allocations
4) Directionless Education Policy
5) Uncouth culture & the inconsideration of people's welfare eg rare earth, contemplation nuclear power projects
6) Islamic Issues
The above 6 issues, which needs immediate attention? When PKR forms government, what is the likelihood of PAS being able to implement it without the consent of the other parties, including those of BN? How many BN 'Muslims' dare to condone it?
I don't know about you all, in an exam, I'll tackle the ones that I know can solve right away at the beginning with the least effort and leave the more tricky ones at the end.
- Curious -
I am a voter in Gelang Patah . Someone above mentioned the potential candidate from MCA that he said Johor economy was down because of Lim Guan Eng comment. Firstly LGE comment was not published in the media how can it affect the economy ? Let me tell the reader not from Johor , this potential candidate with the collaboration of the chinese media at one time was the very active not in politic but chop tree,catches snake.destroy beehive and this news were reported almost everyday with attachment of photoes. After he was confirmed as a candidate he stopped catching bees but he seldom talks about politic. S0 people of Gelang Patah do you want to have this type of MP to represent you ?
Dear All DAP Supporters
Our dear friend PAS Nik Aziz is screwing up the whole scenario. What is happening to this old man.
To all MCA/Gerakan supporters :
巫統最高理事（ 也是教育部副部長） 拿督莫哈末卜艾說，巫統沒有拒絕推行伊斯蘭刑事法.
So, what is happening to your daigo UMNO? MCA in collusion with UMNO?
卜艾：民聯友黨會反對‧丹州難推行伊斯蘭法
2011-10-01 18:59
（吉隆坡1日訊）巫統最高理事拿督莫哈末卜艾說，伊斯蘭黨要在吉蘭丹推行伊斯蘭刑事法的做法，猶如是在發白日夢，因為即使是在丹州實行，也會遭到民聯其他友黨的反對。
他舉例說，今年，伊斯蘭黨政府要在丹州禁彩票，即遭到友黨反對；吉打州政府要在齋戒月停止娛樂活動，也是因為友黨反對而不了了之。
“伊斯蘭黨過去指該黨的鬥爭獲得友黨的認同和接受，該黨與行動黨擁有良好關係，但伊斯蘭刑事法課題引發的風波，揭穿了伊斯蘭黨的謊言。”
也是教育部副部長的卜艾今日移交“一個馬來西亞電腦”給峇都區學生後受詢時說，推行伊斯蘭刑事法並非巫統的問題，但伊斯蘭黨卻把巫統牽扯在其中。
他說，巫統沒有拒絕推行伊斯蘭刑事法，不過，巫統在這課題上比較實際，著重於其他更重要的課題，如消滅貧窮、給予教育和公平對待等，這也屬於伊斯蘭教義的其中一部份。
（星洲日報）
回应 October 1, 2011 12:12 PM 的 mark
如你所愿, 我回答了你在林放blog 的留言.
不需谢谢.
楼上的 WS , mark .
你们口中赞赏的limfang, 今天重新写了一篇有关林冠英的文章.
与前文"sohai 林冠英这次bohood 了" 相比, 最新一篇虽然还是尖酸刻薄, 但比较贴近事实, 也没有指鹿为马或滥用粗言粗语, 这才像是一个比较理智的论政.
好好思考为什么他要这么做吧.
"凡事去得太尽, 缘份亦必早尽"
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