我其实真的不想再写马华了,奈何有些想法若不写出来,会久憋成病。
我在此部落格写了很多嘲讽马华的文章,偏偏,一班马华的朋友却定时过来捧场。当中好几位都是洞见非凡的有识之士,如:Polibug、阿武叔、路见要鸣、卖博士、启聪等等(恕未能尽录)。一个沉沦的政党,还能够留着一批良心未泯的党员,这是马华的福气。
若说我对马华还有半分的好感,都是因为这群朋友。
当然,马华还有更多像日中天这种素质的党员,那是不提也罢。
最近有幸和一些马华的博客 / 党员 / 领袖交流,发觉部分党员思维里存有一些盲点。这些盲点,让他们在与不同立场的人士交流,或进行思想碰撞时,往往处于下风。
这不是马青政说馆的口才训练不够好,而是思维有问题。
我列举以下5个马华党员(不是所有)在与人对辩或交流时常犯的盲点:
1)这是我的家事,不用你管!
这是一句幼稚园的孩子斗嘴时的童言。马华部分党员,甚至领袖,在面对党外的批评时,却很喜欢搬出这句他们以为很有气势的挡箭牌。孰不知却将自己的无知尽数摊在阳光下。
如果非党员无权过问你的“家事”,为何大选时你还来挨家挨户、满脸堆欢向非党员要票?
更离谱的是,身为执政党、享受俸禄,却只顾内斗,还要说这是他们的“家事”。好啊!叫马华领袖们退出政府、吐出所有纳税人支付的俸禄及津贴,那么你们要同室操戈日操夜操,也没有人有兴趣过问!
当然,你们会犯上这个错误,是因为党最高领袖给你们做了错误示范,一上任就语无伦次讲什么:“党务不容外人说三道四”的傻话。须知,老大不一定对,党员自己要懂得独立思考,别人云亦云。
2)这是巫统的问题,别扯到我们头上!
这是典型的鸵鸟心态。如果巫统的问题与马华无关,那为何回教党说要建立回教国,马华领袖却像拾到宝似地痛骂行动党出卖华社?讲话之前先动一动脑筋吧!
当然,这又是党领袖的错误示范,错不在党员。去年308前还有一个念到博士 的领袖义愤填膺地疾呼:“黑狗偷吃不应白狗当罪!”“冤有头债有主!”结果连累己党输剩一条T-back内裤。
同样错误,犯一次是大意,连续重返,则是愚蠢了。
3)批评翁诗杰 = 支持蔡细历
这又是受到党最高领袖及保皇派的误导。蔡细历支持者会批评翁诗杰,当不代表所有批评翁诗杰的人都仅仅是因为支持蔡细历。如此简单的逻辑,怎么都搞不懂?不懂的话为何不去请教胡渐彪兄?
4)提倡道德有错吗?
提倡道德当然没有错!但是不能有双重标准。既然不能与党内道德有污点的领袖存,怎能与党外道德腐烂的伙伴共荣?
双重标准的道德,还算不算道德?
奉行双重标准道德的人,还有没有资格谈道德?
5)为何总是针对马华?
这是很多马华党员在辞穷之际的终极悲情牌。有问题不是最大的问题,不懂自己问题出在哪里,才是最大的问题!
上述这5点,只算最常见的,还有很多是不提也罢。写出来,完全没有挑衅任何人的意图,只是为一班马华的友人而写,不想这班友人因为自己同志的天真无邪而抬不起头。
某些马华党员看完之后,可能会更加肚懒我,一些什么鸡王啦、炮王啦之类的又要上门踢馆!
没关系,我欢迎交流,但前提是别又再兜兜转转于上述的5个思维盲点。要一一解释,很累人啊。。。
我在此部落格写了很多嘲讽马华的文章,偏偏,一班马华的朋友却定时过来捧场。当中好几位都是洞见非凡的有识之士,如:Polibug、阿武叔、路见要鸣、卖博士、启聪等等(恕未能尽录)。一个沉沦的政党,还能够留着一批良心未泯的党员,这是马华的福气。
若说我对马华还有半分的好感,都是因为这群朋友。
当然,马华还有更多像日中天这种素质的党员,那是不提也罢。
最近有幸和一些马华的博客 / 党员 / 领袖交流,发觉部分党员思维里存有一些盲点。这些盲点,让他们在与不同立场的人士交流,或进行思想碰撞时,往往处于下风。
这不是马青政说馆的口才训练不够好,而是思维有问题。
我列举以下5个马华党员(不是所有)在与人对辩或交流时常犯的盲点:
1)这是我的家事,不用你管!
这是一句幼稚园的孩子斗嘴时的童言。马华部分党员,甚至领袖,在面对党外的批评时,却很喜欢搬出这句他们以为很有气势的挡箭牌。孰不知却将自己的无知尽数摊在阳光下。
如果非党员无权过问你的“家事”,为何大选时你还来挨家挨户、满脸堆欢向非党员要票?
更离谱的是,身为执政党、享受俸禄,却只顾内斗,还要说这是他们的“家事”。好啊!叫马华领袖们退出政府、吐出所有纳税人支付的俸禄及津贴,那么你们要同室操戈日操夜操,也没有人有兴趣过问!
当然,你们会犯上这个错误,是因为党最高领袖给你们做了错误示范,一上任就语无伦次讲什么:“党务不容外人说三道四”的傻话。须知,老大不一定对,党员自己要懂得独立思考,别人云亦云。
2)这是巫统的问题,别扯到我们头上!
这是典型的鸵鸟心态。如果巫统的问题与马华无关,那为何回教党说要建立回教国,马华领袖却像拾到宝似地痛骂行动党出卖华社?讲话之前先动一动脑筋吧!
当然,这又是党领袖的错误示范,错不在党员。去年308前还有一个念到博士 的领袖义愤填膺地疾呼:“黑狗偷吃不应白狗当罪!”“冤有头债有主!”结果连累己党输剩一条T-back内裤。
同样错误,犯一次是大意,连续重返,则是愚蠢了。
3)批评翁诗杰 = 支持蔡细历
这又是受到党最高领袖及保皇派的误导。蔡细历支持者会批评翁诗杰,当不代表所有批评翁诗杰的人都仅仅是因为支持蔡细历。如此简单的逻辑,怎么都搞不懂?不懂的话为何不去请教胡渐彪兄?
4)提倡道德有错吗?
提倡道德当然没有错!但是不能有双重标准。既然不能与党内道德有污点的领袖存,怎能与党外道德腐烂的伙伴共荣?
双重标准的道德,还算不算道德?
奉行双重标准道德的人,还有没有资格谈道德?
5)为何总是针对马华?
这是很多马华党员在辞穷之际的终极悲情牌。有问题不是最大的问题,不懂自己问题出在哪里,才是最大的问题!
上述这5点,只算最常见的,还有很多是不提也罢。写出来,完全没有挑衅任何人的意图,只是为一班马华的友人而写,不想这班友人因为自己同志的天真无邪而抬不起头。
某些马华党员看完之后,可能会更加肚懒我,一些什么鸡王啦、炮王啦之类的又要上门踢馆!
没关系,我欢迎交流,但前提是别又再兜兜转转于上述的5个思维盲点。要一一解释,很累人啊。。。
51 comments:
简单的说他们说的道德是看到的不道德就是不道德,他们很有兴趣看完DVD所以很兴奋的说:不道德
对马华的贪污、滥权、营私、舞弊,对人民不忠实,出卖人民利益,!!老要华人成为华人,不让华人成为马来西亚人!!等等
这些他们看不到,为什么看不到?
因为他们的认识水平有问题!
他们对私德:进多少间房很有道德主义。但是对那些涉及全民的问题,却无法解读。就是这样可悲与可怜的公私不分!可能什么是解读也不会呢!
他们有太多盲点了啦。。。
拜托,只要马华还声称自己代表华社我们这些非党员就有资格批判!
看看最近那个霹雳州的唯一华裔行政议员的假惺惺模样,注定了马华在来届大选将惨败!
同意cornerstone,他们在污桶的庇护下,52年来都变成盲了。
马华声称代表马来西亚华人,却不能为华人带来转变,反而要POR污桶的LP。
马华王飞鸿收档的日子所剩不多.
-JoE.CoM-
凌哥,
怎么觉得有点爱之深责之切的感觉
paise,补回上面漏掉的一句。。。
你是恨铁不成钢吗?
凌兄,
不会在有马华仔敢上门了,他们的三脚猫套路都给您摸透了,哪还有把戏可唱?
只能说,如果是烂泥,终究没办法弄上墙.时日已不多,再不悔改,就看2012年他/她又当丧家犬到我家/店门口套票时我如和告诉他
希望这个简单易明的总结能敲醒那些死脑筋。
胡渐彪:关我林鸟!?
马华最要命的一点是:跟不上时代的脉动。
一个善于苟延残喘的政党(姑且不论这个政党的走向是否是“民在我心”的),必须能够看到民意的趋势而量身定做的不断变身,可是,我看到今天的马华,和十年前二十年前的,一模一样。
今天的选民层,后浪不断推前浪,已经不是那些用513就可以被吓得半死的uncle auntie 了。可是,马华是否有观察到这些?很多马华党员的部落格,留言还要受到限制,写了对马华不利的统统都被删除掉。
308后,不止巫统没变,连马华也没变,国大党更是没有变。
或说回来,还需要浪费篇幅,去讨论一个凋零老去的“名为政党却专干社会福利工作”的MCA吗?
Bro Leng and other brothers/sisters
Again, i want to suggest to Bro leng, that DO NOT WASTED YOUR TIME in this hopeless party!
Only "people with brain, but can't think", or people "cari lubang kaya" (mostly, bussinessman) will join and support this party. They are the most hopeless people in the world.
Move on, target on something else, no matter how many article you write, they WILL NEVER change!
-KKM-
马华和巫统一样,是一个组织很庞大及复杂的政体,要改革谈何容易。所谓“马死落地行”,如果不把马华和巫统齐齐打下野,让他们做一下反对党,然后再让还有良知的党员改革马华,马华肯定没有药救。我看不出当今有那一位马华领袖(包括蔡细历}有魄力改革马华。
>>如果不把xx和xx齐齐打下野,让他们做一下反对
A good ideal, but, what gonna hapaned in real is, when both party lost their control (should i said, ONE of them lost the control?) of federal government, instantly, the party gonna bubarkan by itself.
What do you think these people masuk party?
马华领袖还活在本身设计的小圈子中,任何建议,甚至批评都是挺老蔡或是老蔡枪手,真是督懒!
马华号称拥有百万党员,一个基层如此雄厚的政党既然不敢谈判,马华敢去协商已经要让华社谢天谢地了。行动党党员比马华少不知多少倍,可是人家在民联讲话的地位更大声。。。
超人至今对友党的金钱政治还没有任何回应,那种三万变三千事件过后就给举剑的那个老兄吓倒脱下内裤外穿。既然华社有这样的心声,为何你们不敢敢代表我们表达出来呢?华社要苹果,你就拿一个烂橙出来,谁要呢?
在民联当权的五个州属,马华反对党议员有好好扮演反对党议员该有的角色吗?上位前的宣言是敢怒敢言,上位后,比前朝的老黄更差!老黄不敢在外面讲,起码我们还会听到有人说老黄喜欢关起门谈。可是现在,在外在内,超人只喜欢教导道德。华社之悲哀。。。
谢谢楼上各位的捧场!
对于那位劝我无需浪费时间向马华进谏的朋友,谢谢您的好意。
事实上,我写马华的领导层,出发点并非奢望他们痛改前非(谁稀罕?),只是要提醒大家,这班人是多么的无能。刚好又有一位鸡王送上门为我们佐证!哈!
下次有机会运用您手上的一票时,或许这些拙作可以当作您(以及您身边的友人及家人)的一些考量。
这才是我写这些文章的出发点。As an awareness campaign。
我觉得马华广大的基层党员有点像粤语残片的女人,明知道她的男人不顾家,不爱她,不负责任,不疼儿女,常常不回家,又常对她拳打脚踢,但,女人还是煮好饭菜,倚在窗边痴痴的等,一等就等了五十年.....
明知道领袖已不值得信赖,不敢为族群争取权益,持双重道德标准,但依然默默的等待,等待领导层真正的从308中觉悟和清醒过来,这,就是马华基层党员。
个人认为,马来西亚华社,虽然每天都在咒骂着马华几时收档,不过潜意识里对马华的历史情结还是很深的,很难真正的做到“马华的事,跟我无关!”。
要不然,你看华社比较关心行动党谁会当秘书长?还是比较关心马华谁会当总会长?行动党的党选一夜之间就搞定了,选完了我都还不知道;不过马华党选的新闻连登头条登了两个月,华社也当作连续剧来追。
对于现在马华的领导层,小弟本来都不敢对马华有任何称赞,尤其是当下的翁老总执政,马华三年的黑暗时期是肯定免不了的。
不过,大家要认清一个事实,马华在全国上下,几乎全部有巫统支部的地方,马华都一样有支会,在全国的总参透率是非常可观的。百万党员虽然也是吹出来的,不过再怎么样也是很可观的一个数目。马华在全国各地的支会和党员已经形成了一个很强大的网络,如果可以善用的话,的的确确是一股非常强劲的力量。
马华是一只大狗,问题是,谁来为它装上一副尖牙利齿???
槟州尊贵的林大首长,对其第一副手如不能决定动向,请由公正党处理.反正在国会什么都听安华的.
CAT Hunter 25 said...
槟州尊贵的林大首长,对其第一副手如不能决定动向,请由公正党处理.反正在国会什么都听安华的.
So what? At least Anwar is tring his best to pratice Ketuanan Rakyat!
Yes he is now trying his best, just trying, That's 10000 that your party that no balls at all.
吴启聪 said...
个人认为,马来西亚华社,虽然每天都在咒骂着马华几时收档,不过潜意识里对马华的历史情结还是很深的,很难真正的做到“马华的事,跟我无关!”。
I seldom agree with 马x people, but this time, i am 10000 agree with you! You are right about Chinese can't be really praticing "马x的事,跟我无关!"
Because your party always self-claimed represent ALL CHINESE (aka 6 millions), to admit and practing slave policy to "some one" else.
So, tell me mr 马x, how can your party get out from our life?
Hi Anonymous, why do you want MCA get out from your life ? If you think MCA is useless and help nothing in your life, ignore it. Has MCA not entered your life before? I believe it has somehow or rather influenced directly or indirectly your life, at least when we saw some people needing in help got help from this party. The successful or unsuccessful of MCA has got to do with the quality of the leaders elected by the grassroots.
Don't think we are just a drop in the ocean, every drops will construct the water in the sea. Come out, critic for whatever not fair, appraise for whatever done correctly ! If MCA is not going to be performing much better, doom it will be in the next election, wouldn't it? Blaming sorely does not helping the party to move forward. I believe it need to accept criticism, analyse and improve and continuesly improve.
Our ex-president promote Long Life Learning (LLL), I prefer to quote the motivation teacher's concept that says : "Learn, Unlearn and Relearn". Learn whatever new to us, Unlearn things that have been done wrongly and Relearn things that we know all the while but has not been practicing or mastering.
Isn't MCA has to unlearn and relearn ?
To 春天
You know how your party interupt my life? You party agree with all kind of racist policy, that's how it interupted people lIFE!
Long-life-learning? What? Is your party a education center or a POLITICAL PARTY? Or what? A NGO? A charity organization? What? YOu can't do well in politic hence do something else?????
whatever LLL is, as long as A POLITICAL PARTY, you party is doing damn bad, because it made chinese 3rd class citizen!
YOu guys still can't understand why chinese not happy?
If you all can stop self-claim represent 6 million chinese today, and kneel-down to a RACIST party, then, by that time, 100% true whatever your party is NOTHING to do with me.
Got it?
吴启聪 said...
个人认为,马来西亚华社,虽然每天都在咒骂着马华几时收档,不过潜意识里对马华的历史情结还是很深的,很难真正的做到“马华的事,跟我无关!”。
You know why? Because of HATE, because of ALL DEMAGE CANNOT be UNDO!
接下来几天巫统大会肯定会有许多肚烂言论,一众马华人又要鸵鸟头埋土了。
春天 said... critic for whatever not fair..
So any comments from you and your party about these unfair racist policty? Corruption?
春天 said...appraise for whatever done correctly
Please tell me one, what is the thing your party ever "done correctly" (POLITICALLY lar) for last two years?
春天 said...Blaming sorely does not helping the party to move forward.
Come on, you can't be serious? What on earth i wanto to help a party to move forward, while it is bring all kind of shit to us? That also have a assuption, that your party can be "move forward"!?
Also, that's "your party", not mine! See, you guys like to self-claim all chinese are in your party! Another proof.
春天 said...I believe it need to accept criticism, analyse and improve and continuesly improve.
Is 52 years enough for your so call "analyse" and what and what?
Again, tell me which time your party accept criticism, and improve? Of course, i mean POLITICALLY! Your party is a political party, itn't it?
春天 said...Isn't MxA has to unlearn and relearn ?
What about chinese tax payer? What do you have along you so call "lean" and "unlean"? Now what? We are in primary school? We pay tax for you all to learn how to play racist game??
春天 said...I believe it has somehow or rather influenced directly or indirectly your life,
Well, you are damn right that your party influenced directly and indirectly of my life (lot of people life), and that's exactly the reasons made people ANGRY about your party, because all kind of INFLUENCED are DAMN NEGETIVE!
What else?
马华的确是一个“有华人的地方,就有马华支会”的大党。在福利,小民生,地方上的问题,各团体,筹款,红白事等等马华的确有其不可抹杀的贡献。但是,在领导华社(这本是马华的本份,因为它自称代表华社)方面,这五十多年来,他的功绩的确令人摇头,要不然308是不会发生的。
每当地方上的马华推动什么活动,基层党员都回落力支持。但,大选时,我看大部分马华党员都投了反对票,否则,号称有百万党员的马华就不会输得这么惨。。不知你同意吗?
说真的,这届马华党选的新闻足足在报纸上登了两个月,我个人看到很烦很厌很想呕!
昨天这个考虑,今天这个表态,明天那个要打总会长!真的是废到不能顶!
如果有一天,全马大多数华人真的可以冷冷地说:“马华党选?不关我事,没有兴趣!”
那么,马华可以宣告死亡了(即使你们认为它早已死了)。
Anonymous said...
So what? At least Anwar is tring his best to pratice Ketuanan Rakyat!
Yes he is now trying his best, just trying, That's 10000 that your party that no balls at all.
Hello,Anonymous, why you not let Anwah trying fuck your backside, just trying, So what? PKR = SMALL UMNO. PKR members are more from UMNO, isn't???
CAT Hunter 25
I hope you enjoy what you said. It made you like a fool.
"吴启聪 said...
个人认为,马来西亚华社,虽然每天都在咒骂着马华几时收档,不过潜意识里对马华的历史情结还是很深的,很难真正的做到“马华的事,跟我无关!”。
要不然,你看华社比较关心行动党谁会当秘书长?还是比较关心马华谁会当总会长?行动党的党选一夜之间就搞定了,选完了我都还不知道;不过马华党选的新闻连登头条登了两个月,华社也当作连续剧来追。"
这不是什么"历史情结"的问题。
我敢说,如果现在执政的是行动党,如果他们有马华那样的资源,他们的新闻篇幅有马华那么多,那华社追的肯定是行动党的连续剧!
马华如果沦为反对党,看谁理他。
boonkwang兄:
自从308以后,我不觉得民联和行动党有受到报章媒体的冷落。
报章媒体的竞争性是非常激烈的,如果专门报一些读者不感兴趣的新闻,销售量肯定会大跌的,报馆也不会这么傻去倒自己米。
星洲日报和南洋商报的销量落差,原因在何处?这个不用我讲了吧!
不说报章媒体,小弟来自柔佛的一个小镇,镇上很多咖啡店,店里坐着很多西北得空的安哥,大炮车到很响的那种。我从来没有听过他们有讨论过任何的行动党支部改选,可是马华支会改选简直就是他们唯一的共同话题,当然以鸟人的居多。不过我很感谢他们酱喜欢鸟马华,至少好过真的是完全不屑一提的那种。
启聪兄,荣幸得到你的回应,请指教。
您说:
"说真的,这届马华党选的新闻足足在报纸上登了两个月,我个人看到很烦很厌很想呕!"
所以我觉得相比之下,关于党选的新闻,行动党的确是被忽略的。
您说:
"报章媒体的竞争性是非常激烈的,如果专门报一些读者不感兴趣的新闻,销售量肯定会大跌的,报馆也不会这么傻去倒自己米。"意思是说因为人民追踪马华党选的消息,所以报章才会持续报导吧。
那我能不能说因为报章的持续报导,才会反过来得到咖啡店大众的关注呢?(关注,未必喜欢)而行动党党选那么低调,当然引起的关注比较少,因为虽然很多人开始留意反对党了,但不会留意到主动寻找资讯的那种程度。我觉得是相互呼应的。
至于情意结,如果有,我觉得是一种"至少还有你"的心态吧。
(如有误解请见谅)
boonkwang兄:
你想说的,应该是类似鸡与蛋的问题吧?到底是人民先追马华新闻?还是马华新闻多到逼人民去追?这种问题我们在这里争拗,我相信也不会有什么结果吧!
不过我说的例子是实实在在发生在我身边的,小镇的支会改选是没有什么上报纸的,所以应该跟宣传的多寡没有多大关系。
哈哈!我认同这个“至少还有你”的理论,其实只要华社还有这个心去鸟马华,我相信马华还是有得救的!
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吴兄好像很渴望大家对马华到“哀莫大于心死”才认命,只要有口气都不放弃。
老实说,之前马华党选新闻有点过火,简直过分报导,媒体犯了一些错误,吴兄不必那么开心。
再问一句,大家"要八的",是马华这两个冤家(到家都懂谁)的笑话新闻,还是关心马华?我相信,要是这两个冤家到了民阵党甚至是火箭,大家都是把它们的新闻当笑话看,根本和当没关系,别笑死人了。
天兄:
坦白说,在1018之前,我的确认为老蔡是输稳的,黄家泉的班底这么厚,老蔡身有屎哪里可能打得赢他?所以从来没有想象过蕹菜的组合,也没有想过老总原来是这种人,太多太多出乎我意料之外的变数了,那个时候要拿蕹菜来做笑话,不曾闪过我的脑海。
哈哈,这个“开心”可是扯得太过遥远了,个人对当今的马华是非常灰心的。
对,就是“哀莫大于心死”,不止是党,做人亦是一样,还没到倒下的一刻,你会选择放弃吗?
吴启聪, for me, chua or ong, all are lousy not qualify to be leader.
Hi Anonymouses,
Forgive me for being poor in English that I used the word "Our party ex-president", I can't say "My party ex-president, can I ?", I am not and totally not claiming MCA is your party as well but I would like to emphasize MCA stands for Malaysian Chinese Association, accept it or not, it won't be changing the name, at least I believe. Of course, we cannot deny the existence of other parties like DAP, Gerakan and PKR that consist of Malaysian Chinese. What I want to say is MCA is represented by Malaysian Chinese but not all Malaysian Chinese are MCA members or supporting MCA.
I am just a junior member of MCA (MCA Youth instead), there was a time when a MCA member asked me, what do you actually want from MCA? I don't know how to answer him because out of the sudden, I was stuck with such question as must I have any special intention to join MCA ? Or must MCA giving me anything ? Yes, there must be some intentions. I must be truthful to myself. I don't get low cost house (it is a traditional reason for joining MCA ?), I don't get anything and I know I don't have political talent and. Eventually, I found out the reason: to deny whoever leaders have no ball at all in the MCA or MCA Youth election. Of course I might not have effectively or efficiently achieving my intention. But at least I tried and done something for the party and do not stay unknown or only know how to criticise MCA.
Before I joined MCA as more active member, I was pro DAP and I have donated money to DAP in election just because I wanted to deny MCA.
各位网友,
何必大动肝火,
四海之内皆兄弟,
虽然道不同,
可是未必要不相为谋!
身为公民,
每个人都有权力批抨政府,
何况是一个政党,
凌兄所言,
也是事实,
马华?本身是无罪,
有罪有错的是历任马华贪污腐化的领导人!
要鸣兄,绝对赞同你所说的“有罪有错的是历任马华贪污腐化的领导人”。
To 春天, well nothing else i can said, just GOOD LUCK.
If you are sure that you did not join the party for "benefit" (low cost house, sub-sub-sub contract and etc), but purely for good reasons you mentioned, then YES, you have all right to make your decision to join any party.
Although i can see you gonna be dissapointed soon.
Just good luck to you.
吴兄:
没法啦,以前华人没有别的选择,马华就算半死也不能放弃。可是现在时代转变,马华、民政不再是唯一选择,如此下去只有等待淘汰了。
没错,本人对马华不太算得上“没好感”,倒是对一些博士、医生、道德工作者相当有意见,老是说话没过大脑,受不了啊。
...I would like to emphasize MCA stands for Malaysian Chinese Association, accept it or not, it won't be changing the name,...
Let's register a party under name "World Chinese Association" then we can claim ourselves represent all chinese in the world. Thanks to the wisdom of MCA youth ordinary member.
What I want to say is MCA is represented by Malaysian Chinese but not all Malaysian Chinese are MCA members or supporting MCA.
Representing chinese and represented by chinese are totally 2 different things. Who care if MCA is represented by what race...even orang utan also nobody care as long as your party does not continuously proclaim it's representing malaysian chinese when you have lost the majority of chinese votes.
To 陈桂生, you are right, this losser party always self-claimed represent chinese, just because the name has a chinese?
If i give my son name as "All Chinese", does it mean he is the one represent ALL CHINESE?
To 陈桂生,
Do you read my overall comment and understand what I was trying to say? I have not mentioned here MCA represents Malaysian Chinese, though I always thought it should. Of course I know the vice versa differences.
You said:
"Who care if MCA is represented by what race...even orang utan also nobody care as long as your party does not continuously proclaim it's representing malaysian chinese when you have lost the majority of chinese votes."
I am quite sad to hear these words. But we can't be arguing there must be some contributions by MCA.
I am a MCA Youth ordinary member and might not be wiser than others but I don't behave sarcastically and arrogantly. Please again don't misunderstand my words. I am saying me myself won't behave like this, don't think I am saying anyone else could be like that.
Change of perception and paradigm shift take time. Unfortunately, it could be changing from good to bad.
Let's stop the arguing. Things can't be changed by simply throwing some words in the blog but let time do the job. Believe it or not, if MCA is not going to perform in coming years, the destiny of the party will be determined by people in next election.
Well, nice to know you 陈桂生.
春天 said...
I am quite sad to hear these words. But we can't be arguing there must be some contributions by MCA.
You mind to share, that the contributions of your party, in term of POLITIC (of course!)?
Don't tell me about education lar, charity lar, all nonsense, because you are a political party, so tell me, what is the contribution of your party? The last one was 52 years ago? Any newer?
To Anonymous,
Do you mind to let me know are you working or studying ? Have you ever worked in big organization especially MNC and what would you feel when you see your surroundings are all colleagues playing company politics and none of them are working hard ?
Are you saying a political party can only play dirty politic tactics all the time and is that the only contributions required ?
Yes, you are right that it is a political party and it can't avoid to have some political agendas but bear in mind that some of the works benefiting the people must also be done and if these are not contributions, these are at least something being done to the people and not nothing.
That's all for my reply and I am not going to reply anything anymore.
Anyway, thanks for showing your unsatisfactions and it would be good if you can use a name to post your comment. Otherwise, I might repeat the same things to the same people also I don't know.
人死留名,豹死留皮,部落客写评语不用真名至少也用个笔名。
文仔,我也想说些话了。
对於你,我是很欣赏的,也套一句你说的:像你这样的人,是我对民主行动党有点好感的原因。
除了你,我当然也欣赏林冠英,欢章钦。
以前林冠英坐牢前,我也发动了朋友家人,给他签名。
但也不能表示我100%把民主行动党当做神来拜。
就像马华一样,民主行动党也有很多乱人,你同意吗?
我批评马华,因为我希望马华进步,我批评民主行动党,也希望民主行动党进步。
我发现你的文章,绝不是为了鸟而鸟,摆事实,讲道理,这是我欣赏之处。
可是,民主行动党还是有许多支持者,纯粹只为了鸟而鸟,你同意吗?
虽然说,民主行动党在308取得空前大胜,不意味着永远大胜,小心风水轮流转,一不小心,谁蒄谁王,可能又对调了。
308对马华是一个打击,却是一个重生的警讯,领导的若不能带头改变人民的看法,必死无疑。
308对民主行动党是一个激励,却也是一个警讯,领导的必须醒觉,不能老是靠骂国阵来取得执政权,该展示自己的势力,证明能做得比国阵更好的时候了。
每一届大选,人人都说人民的眼睛是雪亮的,吹国阵风的时候是雪亮的,吹反风时也是雪亮的。
上一届大选,民主行动党好像是派一只狗上阵也能打胜仗,下一届还能不能,还要看民主行动党栽培出多少个林冠英、邓章钦、郭素沁哩!
Come on, you are typical close-minded mahua?!
Can't be "Anonymous" a name too?
Many kind of name out there, you mahua just close the door care nothing rather than low cost house, subx7contract?
adoi...
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